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Tabor Murn
Kaitaua Whamere
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Posted - 2015.04.23 13:07:29 -
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Slavery is likely the focal point for many Minmatar Militia corporations because it is such an inflammatory issue and because unlike all of the other reasons the OP listed as reasons to go to war with the Amarr, slavery is the only ongoing issue.
I would like to echo Pilot Nissui's statement that few Militia corporations fight explicitly for the Minmatar cause. Unfortunately a great majority fight for fun and/or personal profit. |
Tabor Murn
Kaitaua Whamere
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Posted - 2015.04.23 14:38:58 -
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I think the Republic has done a far better job than many give credit for. I'm sure things could have been done better. Do we have the resources and infrastructure to accommodate a hypothetical emancipation of all Matari slaves? Probably not. People assume that all of those emancipated were dumped on the Republic's doorstep. Many, if not most, of those released by Jamyl Sarum were completely indoctrinated by Amarr culture and probably stayed there. Others went to the Federation as your clan has Mr. Egivand. I'm sure they expected better opportunities since the Federation has a more powerful economy and well established government. Some may have been lucky enough to find such opportunities. The Republic is still establishing itself even after all of this time. We're still rebuilding we're still struggling to find a government that works for us, and we still prioritize military spending over development because we feel it necessary for our survival
I largely agree with your opinion on the Empyrean Conflict. I think military action should have a purpose, clear objectives, and conditions to be met in order to determine victory. The CEWPA conflict is not a war, it's a meatgrinder disguised as a playground for nationalist capsuleers. |
Tabor Murn
Kaitaua Whamere
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Posted - 2015.04.23 14:42:43 -
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Liam Antolliere wrote:
It would have if it wouldn't have misappropriated the financial aid lent to it by the Federation. Instead, those funds were diverted to other projects for other purposes which did not benefit the Matari people as a whole but only fueled the agenda of a few.
Please understand, I do not make this statement to attack you or the Matari people. I make it because history is bound to repeat itself if we do not learn from it.
The Federation will not meddle in the internal affairs of your Republic, that is left to you. However, I suspect that a petition for support and aid would not fall on deaf ears should one be made.
Those funds were diverted but they still were of benefit to the Matari people. The "Elder Fleet" prevented a genocide of the Starkmanir. We continue to develop the Republic Military because we're concerned with history repeating itself. |
Tabor Murn
Kaitaua Whamere
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Posted - 2015.04.25 14:59:16 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Liam Antolliere wrote:
Tattoos do not remove your will and supplant their own, slavery does.
Technically, the Voluval does...
This is inaccurate. Those who receive marks with consequences which outsiders perceive as negative, receive those marks for a reason. If someone has a hereditary disease which will cripple their offspring, they will likely receive a mark which forbids them from having children. The mark does not sterilize them. It doesn't remove their free will. If they don't wish to live by their voluval, they can always leave our society (either through emigration or exile). |
Tabor Murn
Kaitaua Whamere
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Posted - 2015.04.25 16:56:53 -
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My point is that it has little to do with belief. If someone is born with schizophrenia, it is not a choice. They cannot choose to disbelieve their affliction. A culture can however collectively decide how to diagnose and treat an affliction. We choose the Voluval. We don't do it for profit. We don't do it against the collective will of the people. I have never seen a voluval ritual forced on anyone. The fact that we have taken effective method of genetic and behavioral screening and made it part of a cultural rite does not negate the efficacy of said testing method. The fact that said ritual is voluntary means that we are not stripping anyone of their free will.
The fact that our society punishes the members of our own society who do not obey the rules of that society is no different than any other nation or state enforcing their laws and cultural norms within their own borders. Only an anarchist would say that law is the death of free will. We choose not to be anarchists. |
Tabor Murn
Kaitaua Whamere
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Posted - 2015.04.25 17:13:59 -
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Most clans make use of the ritual and for them it is an important part as a coming-of-age ceremony. It is not mandated by law though there is probably great social pressure on a young Minmatar to participate.
The test is also not purely genetic. I've read some studies that claimed it was more hormonal than anything else. I'm not entirely certain how it works. i am reasonably confident that it works. |
Tabor Murn
Kaitaua Whamere
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Posted - 2015.04.25 21:27:05 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Tabor Murn wrote:Most clans make use of the ritual and for them it is an important part as a coming-of-age ceremony. It is not mandated by law though there is probably great social pressure on a young Minmatar to participate.
The test is also not purely genetic. I've read some studies that claimed it was more hormonal than anything else. I'm not entirely certain how it works. i am reasonably confident that it works. That is why I described it as part of the realm of... belief, or faith...
You're too quick to label confidence in that which isn't understood as faith. I'm surprised to see a member of the Amarrian faith use the term so casually. I don't understand how a graviton reactor works. I know they work because Caldari use them to power their ships. I would not say that I have "faith" in graviton reactors. To use the term for such a mundane purpose seems to cheapen it. |
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